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Sea School Nostalgia by John Trott.

Sea School Nostalgia.

A further bit of Info , I came across recently were the ‘Flags’ used/ granted to the various ‘Sea Schools’   that were dotted around the country.   It seems that the Sea Schools used to apply for permission for a School  Flag. 

It was usually the ‘Blue Ensign’  ....... the school would apply to the Admiralty to incorporate a badge (or crest)  on the Blue Ensign.

 

For example;

 

TS ARETHUSA,   the Sea School at Greenhithe on the Thames was first granted the right to have ; TS ARETHUSA  in white letters placed under the ‘Union Flag’ on the Blue Ensign. Later the TS Arethusa was granted a badge (Red Anchor within a Blue Lifebelt with TS ARETHUSA embolden on the Life belt).

 

TS CONWAY, the Sea School originally of the Mersey was granted a ‘Castle’ emblem on the Blue Ensign.

 

TS INDEFATIGABLE, another Sea School on the Mersey was granted a ’Liver bird’ emblem (City of Liverpool) on the Blue Ensign.

 

TS MERCURY, on the River Hamble was granted the ‘winged sandals’ of Mecury (from Roman Mythology) on the Blue Ensign.

 

TS WORCESTER, on the lower Thames was granted the ‘Naval Crown with a W beneath) embolden in Gold on the Blue Ensign.

 

The Prince of Wales Sea Training School which was at Limehouse uses a Red Ensign embolden with the 3 Feathers of the Prince of Wales.

There were some 10 others.

 

Much closer to home. Watts Naval Training School at Eltham, Norfolk, applied to the Admiralty for a  ‘Blue Ensign’ around 1906. It seems that no action by WATTS was not pursued, and WATTS commenced flying the White Ensign. In 1927 WATTS was told to cease flying the White Ensign. At this stage WATTS was flying the ‘White Ensign’ with WNTS embolden in blue in the lower right quadrant of the White Ensign, which no doubt upset the Admiralty.

A further application was made in April 1927, to the Admiralty to fly the Blue Ensign, this was refused. 

In  January 1933  permission was granted for WATTS to fly the ‘Blue Ensign’  embolden with a badge of the school.  Exactly what this was is not known.

 

Does anyone remember or have any stories about the ‘White Ensign’ being flown at WATTS  and what was the School Badge  that may have appeared on the Flag ??

 

Source:

Grateful acknowledgement to David Prothero,  for his excellent work in researching the Flags of the Sea Schools. 

Copyright is acknowledged and use of the material as described under Copyright on the Flags of the Sea Schools Website.

We hope that ‘old boys’ from, WATTS, RCNS & PSTS may be able to provide information that can add to the Sea School Flags Website.

 

The Sea School Flags Website can be founds at:    http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/gb~bts2.html

RCNS

 

RCNS

In 1944 the pond in front of the Lady Russell-Cotes House had a platform that was approached up a few steps and, with an apron in front of it to prevent us falling in, enabled us to practice swinging the lead, but only for the first few marks, for the pond was not very deep. Not far from there was the green-corrugated class-room beside which was the boat deck of sufficient height to provide practice for two teams in boat lowering. More realistic experience in boat-work for the 'nauticals' (but not the 'elementaries' ) was gained from trips to Poole Harbour.  However, elementaries were not exempt from the early morning chores around the school and I got particular enjoyment from tidying and cleaning the Seamanship room, halfway up the hill to the San. There were wonderfully-knotted ropes, riggings, spars, and a shiny brass binnacle containing a compass that greatly entertained me. The room was actually a wooden hut, and I wonder how many others obtained their visions of seamanship from there. (Gordon Brocklehurst. RCNS: 1942-1946).

Never, in the history of the Homes, has there been a day more instinct with hope and the buoyant spirit of youth than the day on which HRH Prince Albert laid the foundation stone of our new Russell-Cotes Nautical School. It was a spring day, and the blossoms and tender green of springing life on the hillsides and hedgerows seemed trying to vie with the bunting with which joyous hands had decked the town. And amongst the spring joy and the laughter of little children came the young Prince to dedicate the gift of Sir Merton Russell-Cotes of Bournemouth.

Many of the well-known people of the county were there on the crimson coloured platform on 8th May, 1919. There was also the Right Rev the Lord Bishop of Salisbury and the Rev the Hon R. E. Adderley; the Earl of Shaftesbury, whose name has for so many years been a household word to poor children; the Duke of Somerset (our president); Brigadier-General Page Croft, MP; Howard Williams, Esq; William McCall, Esq; Sir John Kirk; Captain Stebbing; Major Greig; and W. W. Hind Smith, Esq. Close to the young Prince were the Girl Guides - his guard of honour - and all around were the children, big and little, rich and poor, all smiling.

After the hush of prayer, the Prince made his first public speech in laying the stone. What finer debut could the scion of any Royal House have to look back upon than this appearance of his at Parkstone to inaugurate our Nautical School?

His Royal Highness said: 'I am very glad to have the privilege of being here this afternoon to take part in the beginning of a scheme which I know will be of very great benefit to the Mercantile Marine and the country in general. We have learnt through bitter experience during the war how much we owe to the Mercantile Marine. We know by the result of the war how the fate of the country depended on them, how splendidly they came to our help - men of the merchant ships, minesweepers, drifters, and other fleet auxiliaries and how we won through at the cost of 15,000 of their lives. As we depended on the Merchant Service in war, so in peace we depend on them for the reconstruction of our world trade, and to this end we must have a first-class merchant fleet with well-trained, well-equipped British crews. I am sure that the Russell­Cotes Nautical School will be of the greatest help in attaining this end. With the example of the Watts Naval School in Norfolk, in connection with Dr Barnardo's Homes, before it, we can go forward in confidence with our project. The Watts School turned out hundreds of young sailors for the Navy. Every battleship which took part in the war had a Watts boy among the crew. When volunteers were called for the attack at Zeebrugge five Watts boys were among them. Two others went down on the Hampshire with Lord Kitchener. So that the Watts School already has noble traditions in the 16 years of its life. What the Watts School is to the Navy, so I am sure the Russell-Cotes School will be to the Mer­chant Service. You will, I know, join me in wishing this new school will turn out a great and fruitful enterprise, which will carry the names of the generous donors and Dr Barnardo's Homes into a long and brilliant future.

And there upon the foundation stone was 'well and truly laid' amid general cheers. The Earl of Shaftesbury, our Chairman for the day, reminded us all of a thing we are never likely to forget ­the debt we owe to the Navy, England's 'sure shield', which saved us from the fate of Belgium. He went on to express his admiration of the Merchantile Marine and his firm conviction that in the future a thing so vitally a National concern should be run systematically, so that never again could slackness be laid at our British doors. This School, he said, would keep in constant training 300 sailor boys. A small drop in the ocean of the British Empire, but a splendid beginning!

The Duke of Somerset, after expressing the pleasure it gave him to see one of the younger members of the Royal Family enlisted in the cause of child rescue, spoke enthusiastically of the Watts Naval School and its splen­did record of devotion and service, and pointed out the extreme significance of the fact that, in their most im­pressionable years the boys were and would be brought up in the traditions of the Navy and the Merchant Service, trained in the habits of precision and swift obedience, and able to devote their splendid vitality and spirits to something constructive, instead of coming into the career late in life and finding that they had everything to learn.

From Night and Day June 1919

P&O.

 

The Peninsular and Oriental Steamship Navigation Co.

by John Trott » Thu Oct 30, 2008.

Hi All,

After the leaving the Navy I did some 10 years with P&O. Are there any others who joined P&O ? or any of the lines that merged with P&O , BI, Orient OCL, or NZ Shipping etc ? or any of the many P&O Companies.

Towards the end of the P&O era, in 1974 P&O bought 'Princess Cruises', many will remember the 'Love Boat' series on TV ... was anyone crew on any of the Princess boats ??

P&O in its heyday was Great Britain's oldest Company, founded in 1837. (Oldest = continually owned and listed Company).

As some may know, P&OSNCo is no longer with us. Princess Cruises, along with P&O Cruises (Oriana, Arcadia, Aurora, Oceana etc) all went to Carnival of the USA (affectionaly known as Wal-Mart Cruising). The very large business P&O Ports, which owned/managed some 60 Ports worldwide
from Southampton to Sydney, from Nahva Sheva (India) to New York. P&O had 17 US Ports alone (New York to Galveston). The entire Ports business went to Dubai to become Dubai World.
Other less well known business were sold off, the UK Shopping Centres, the Holiday Resorts, in Spain, South Pacific & Australia all went.
Another business not generally known was Bovis Homes and Bovis Contstruction, it was an wholly owned P&O Company. If you had worked in the Cold Storage/Cold Logistics Businesses in California, Texas, Nevada, Arizona and Australia, you could have worked for a P&O Company as P&O Cold Storage/Cold Logistics was one of the Worlds largest, supplying Cold, Chilled & Frozen to Supermarkets, Wal-Mart Stores, Woolworths etc.

So if you think or remember you were with P&O lets hear from you.

Regards John Trott Arranmore 40

 

Postby Mick Aves » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:34 pm

Hi John,
I joined the Chusan in December 1955, as a stewards boy, completing two Japan trips. Then joined Royal Mail Line on Highland Monarch on South America meat run. Then Blue Star also meat run. Cheers Mick Aves 35HH
Best regards all the best
Mick Aves Howard House

Postby John Trott » Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:56 pm

Hi Mick,
Pleased to meet you, I was Arranmore 1955-59, so as you know next door to Howard House.

I see you were on the Chusan, one of P&O's most loved ships. She first started on the London to Bombay run in 1950, spending most of her time on the Far East runs and then to Australia. She ended with P&O in 1973.
P&O's first Chusan was a far more modest affair, a 699 ton, iron screw steamer, built in 1850, she was the first to carry the Royal Mails by sea to Australia.
You certainly moved around, getting onto the South America run. Royal Mail Lines, were taken over by Furness Withy in 1965. I think Highland Monarch ended her days about 1960.
As general interest to readers, Blue Star Line was one of the most famous on the 'meat runs' to South America. The 'Vesty Family' of Liverpool were world wide meat traders, who founded the Blue Star Line. Blue Star also moved into passenger ships, cruising throughout the Med.
Amongst the more famous of the Blue Star line ships, was the vessel 'Doric Star' which was sunk by the German Pocket Battleship Admiral Graf Spee. In the movie, Battle of the River Plate, the Captain of the Doric Star was played by Andrew Cruickshank, who is probably better known as Dr. Cameron in Dr. Finlay's Casebook the 1960's-1970's TV series.

Good to catch up with you, Mick.

Regards John Trott Arranmore 40

The Five Houses.

The Five Houses.

I have long been intrigued as to how and why the houses at PSTS came to be named. Recently, Frank Cooke kindly sent me a copy of “Night and Day”, which was the Barnardo magazine, after reading through this magazine, which dates from 1919 to the 1930s, together with a good look round at the 2008 reunion, I have put together extracts which I believe to be as accurate as I can gather. If anyone can see mistakes, omissions or can add to this, please let us know.

The thirty two acre estate that the school stood on was donated by Sir Merton Russell Cotes in 1919, together with the sum of £8000 to build the first “house”, this was to be called The Lady Russell Cotes House in memory of his wife. The school had opened in 1919, the boys being accommodated in wooden huts until LRCH was opened in 1922.

The next two houses were Howard and Johnston, as far as I can ascertain, Howard House was named after Mrs Robert Howard of Broughton Hall, by her daughters, the two Misses Howard who donated the money for building costs.

There is reference to a Mr William Johnston who donated the money to build the swimming pool in 1922, so it follows that Johnston House was named after this benefactor, who was a shipowner from Liverpool. Both houses were opened in 1924.

The Misses Howard then donated the costs for Broughton House which opened in 1927, this was named in memory of their late father, Mr Robert Howard of Broughton Hall in Malpas, Cheshire.

Arranmore House was opened in 1937,the costs being donated by a Mr Edmund Alan Johnston of Johnston S.S.Co, presumably the son of Mr William Johnston, although there is no clue as to why it was called Arranmore.

So now we have five houses and between 150 and 180 boys, a much needed sick-bay was opened in 1934, the chapel, a gift from Sir Leonard and Lady Lyle, in 1936,last of all the mess-deck, known as Jellicoe Hall opened in 1937.

I find it rather strange that in the four years I spent at PSTS, I never noticed the plaques on the hall walls, and that we were never informed about the origin of how our houses came to be named, it is rather sad that these very generous people are virtually forgotten.

Richard Eastwood.

Broughton house 58, Jan 1955 to Sept. 1958.

The following information has been received from John Trott, (Arranmore 40: 1955 to 1959)

The Howard’s & The Johnston’s

Benefactors to Russell Cotes Nautical School

that became Parkstone Sea Training School

by John Trott

 

The five houses of Parkstone Sea Training School; Lady Russell Coates House (LRCH), Arranmore, Howard, Johnston and Broughton have a rich history as to how the houses were named.

Lady Russell Coates House or LRCH as it was affectionally known, was named in memory of Sir Merton Russell Coates lady wife. This house was the first house, the sum of £8000 to build the house being donated by Sir Merton Russell Cotes in 1919. The school had opened in 1919, the boys being accommodated in wooden huts until LRCH was opened in 1922.

The next four houses were donated by the Howard’s and the Johnston’s, they were wealthy people who moved in the same circles of affluence as the Russell Cotes.

Here is a look into the history and background of both the Howard and Johnston families to discover how the house names came about. This may seem quite self evident for Howard and Johnston Houses, the surnames of the benefactor, but less evident for Broughton, however Arranmore proves to be an enigma.

After LRCH, the next two houses to be built were Howard and Johnston with both houses opening in 1924.Next came Broughton House in 1927 and lastly Arranmore in 1937.

With three of the five houses complete that could accommodate between 150 and 180 boys, a much needed sick-bay was opened in 1934, the chapel, a gift from Sir Leonard and Lady Lyle, in1936, last of all the mess-deck, known as Jellicoe Hall opened in 1937.

As many a Parkstone boy will no doubt agree, few of the boys were informed about the origins of the houses or indeed had ever noticed the plaques on the building walls that appear with this article.

Both of the benefactors for the houses; Howard, Johnston, Broughton and Arranmore were very wealthy families, following is a summary of just how the houses names came to be chosen.

 

The Howards

So starting with the Howards …..

Howard house was named after Mrs Robert Howard of Malpas, Cheshire by her daughters. The two Misses Howards who donated the money for building costs..

A John Howard was born, 11 Jan 1792 in Cheshire, he married in 1814 in Cheshire an Elizabeth Clulow, also born in Cheshire in 1791abt.Both died within a year of each other; 29 Dec 1849 & 22 Jan 1850 respectively.

John Howard was very wealthy, just where he made his pile has not been uncovered but he was a wealthy merchant and he purchased Brereton Hall, a very Grand Manor that was named after after a Sir William Brereton who had died without Issue.

In 1817 there was an Act of Parliament to dismember the estate to satisfy the claims of the assignees and mortgagees of Mr. Bracebridge and to indemnify Mr Legge and Mr. Digby for the resignation of their interests. The Manor and land was offered in parcels. The hall and large part of the land were bought in 1830 by John Howard Esq., of Hyde, succeeded by his son A. C. Howard in 1850. Another portion was sold to Sir Charles Shakerley.

John Howard and Elizabeth had a number of children, the eldest was; - Aaron Clulow Howard Esquire who was born in 1823abt at Brereton Hall, his younger sister, H.E.Howard born in 1825abt also at Brereton, with a brother, Robert Howard born in 1829abt. at Brereton Hall Cheshire.

 

Robert Howard married, Lucy Annabella Wood, born 1832abt at Middlewich, Cheshire. They had several children, the two daughters, Elizabeth Howard born 1861abt at Worthenbury, Flintshire and Mary Howard born 1860abt also at Worthenbury , Flintshire, later donated monies for the two houses; Howard and Broughton.

Howard was named after Mrs Robert Howard and later, a further donation was for Broughton House named after their late father Mr Robert Howard of Broughton Hall.

After his marriage to Lucy, Mr Robert Howard had moved to Broughton Hall. In the Parish of Worthenbury, Flintshire.

Mr Robert Howard was also very wealthy, having a staff of servants; Footmen, Butler, Governess, domestics, Nurse etc.

By 1891 Robert Howard was a Magistrate, and was Sherriff of Flint from 1861 to1862. He had retired from the bench and was still at Broughton Hall, living the life of the landed gentry, they employed some 7 general servants, plus cook & footman. The Estate was very large with a Lodge occupied by the Gamekeeper and his family. Robert Howard died in 1908at Ellesmere, Flintshire.

Broughton Hall was not as Grand a place as where the elder brother resided at Brereton Hall.

The elder brother of Mr Robert Howard was Mr Aaron Clulow Howard Esquire.

In 1851, Aaron Howard was the ‘Lord of the Manor ‘at Brereton Hall, along with his brother Robert Howard and his sister HE Howard were four of his Aunt’s residing there as well; Aunt Mary A Clulow (born1795abt Macclesfield, Cheshire),

Aunt Rachael Johnstone( born 1805abt Brereton, Cheshire), Aunt Martha Johnstone (born 1807abt Brereton) and Aunt Jane Kempt (born 1797abt Brereton, Cheshire).

There were also three servants in the household.

Its entirely possible that the Aunts, Rachael & Martha were related to the Johnston family who were also benefactors of Parkstone houses.

(A couple of Notes;

1. In early records silent letters eg ‘e” in names are frequently used/mis-used.

2. Broughton Hall, Cheshire, has no relationship to Broughton Hall Yorkshire.

 

The Johnstons

Now to the Johnston family , who were they ?

The head of the Johnston Family was William Johnston (the elder), born 1807 in Bangor, Ireland. He married Catherine Stewart born who was also born in Ireland in 1811abt.

In 1871 the family were living in West Derby, Lancashire with their three children, Robert Johnston born 1844abt., Maria Johnston born 1847abt., Ireland, and Edmund Johnston (the elder) born 1853abt Ireland, both of the sons were Ship Brokers whilst the father William was a Ship Master. The eldest brother William Johnston born. 1841abt., Ireland, a Steam Ship Agent, was living with his family a few doors along at 18 Lomond Road, West Derby.

William Johnston (the elder) and his son Edmund Johnston (the elder) purchased their first steamer the Ardmore in 1872. The were to operate a service to the Black Sea, Greece and Turkey. The Ardmore was built by Bartram Haswell & Co. of Sunderland. This same builder, built the the 3 masted barque Clan Macleod in1874. Today this barque is fully restored. Her name was changed in 1905 to the James Craig, she was a ‘Cape Horner’ for much her early life rounding the Cape no less than 23 times. Today she sails the more tranquil waters of Sydney harbour.

So, just when did the Johnston’s arrive from Ireland ?

Little is known about the Johnston family prior to 1871 and when the family arrived from Ireland, it was probably after 1844.

By 1881, William Johnston (the elder), now 74abt., was in semi retirement ,he was still a Ship owner, and living with his wife and two daughters, Anne Mitchel (34yrs) a widow, Louisa McFane (30yrs) and her daughter Anne McFane (11yrs) in Tranmere, Cheshire.

The oldest son, William Johnston (the younger) born 1841abt Londonderry, Ireland now ran the Shipping Line. William had married Kate (born1842abt. Bristol) and a family had commenced, there were more than nine children.

The son of William Johnston (the elder – b.1807), Edmund Johnston (the elder b.1853) had married Helen Kendall at Wirral in 1878, they were living in Higher Bebington, Cheshire. Edmund was still a shipowner.

By 1891 William Johnston (the younger) was Ship Owner and with his 4 sons; Henry (born 1869), Robert (born 1871), Edmund (the younger) born 1872 Liverpool, and Stewart (born 1874) ran the Shipping Line. The family lived Poulton Cum Spittle, Cheshire, William Johnston (the elder) was still living with the family but now a widower.

Of the 4 sons it was Edmund the younger, (b. 1872) who was to come to prominence and was the benefactor for the Johnston House.

Edmund Alan Johnston (the younger b.1872) who was the Johnston House and Arranmore House benefactor, who with his father William Johnston (the younger) became the power behind the successful Johnston Shipping Line.

In 1934, the Furness Withy Line, the owner of the Johnston Line since 1914, combined two further lines that it owned; the Warren Line and the Neptune Steam Navigation Company Ltd., to form the Johnston Warren Line Ltd. The Neptune Steam Navigation Line ran a liner service from Rotterdam to Baltimore USA. This is where Edmund Johnston found himself in 1934, the year of the merger. Unfortunately Edmund Johnston died in his 63rd year, on 2nd October 1934 in Baltimore, USA. Edmund Johnston was a resident of Baltimore, Maryland, when he died, for how long it is not clear. His estate reported in The Times of London in December 1934 was for; £94,079. of which he paid £4,796 estate duty. So its possible to conclude he was running the USA side of the business when he died, but was still a British subject. Source: The Times of London 1934.

In 1914 Johnston Shipping Co. had became a subsidiary of the Furness Withy Line, then in 1934 it became the Johnston-Warren Lines Ltd. A ship of the Line was the ARRANMORE, built 1904 3,000 ton (approx) later sold to Oakmore SS. Co. Liverpool. But was this the Arranmore of Arranmore House ?

The question of the Arranmore House name is a bit more complex for a start there were nearly half a dozen ships called Arranmore, most could have some connection.

 

The Contender’s

Firstly:

Arranmore: built 1879. by William Doxford & Co (No. 114) 2,060 GWT 1,394 Tons for the Johnston Shipping Line (probably for William Johnston the elder).
This vessel was a Steam reciprocating engine ship . The building of this ship was reported in the Marine Engineer Journal of 1879/1880.There does not seem to be anything of further significance, other than being the first ship named Arranmore in the Johnston line.

Secondly:.

Arranmore built 1904 (3,045 tons). (for William Johnston the younger)

Built 1904 by Richardson Duck & Co. Thornaby, England for Johnston Line, 3,040 Tons, length: 346 ft. Used on run to New York 1904-1916.She was transferred to Oakmore SS Co Liverpool in 1915, renamed in 1919 Santeramo. 1921 sold to CN Vassilakis, Chios renamed Anna Vassilakis. There are few (if any) details of this vessel. By 1914 she was a Furness Withy Line vessel, Furness Withy having purchased a 50% share of the Johnston Line in 1914. So the Johnston Line people would have only had contact with this Arranmore for about a year.
Thirdly:

Arranmore – built Oct 1893 by Russell & Co. Port Glasgow.(Yard No. 338) Steel Ship, 1,946 Tons – Length: 263, beam: 39 depth 23.6

She was built for Dickie Thomson & Co (Shipping Line) also known as Maiden City Line. Sold: 1910 to Hamburg Owners renamed Waltraute. Taken from the Germans to Great Britain after WW1 in 1919, as repatriation. Property of the Shipping Federation. In 1922 renamed; VINDICATRIX. and arrived Sharpness in 1939.

She was broken up in 1967.

Affectionally known as: Last of the Windjammers, this Arranmore / Vindicatrix was a most beautiful ship, one of the great Windjammers.

Fourth.

Arranmore – built 1915 by J. Bulmer & Co. Ltd. Sunderland, England 4,008 gross tons. Moor Line / Runciman & Co.

Fifth.

Aranmore (1 x R) owned by Clyde Shipping Co. Glasgow 1,050 tons. She was torpedoed and sunk by U.43 on 21 Mar 1916 24 miles ENE Eagle Island C. Mayo / Limerick.

A Geographic Contender ?

Just when it seemed to be getting down to the most promising Ship another factor crops up.

There is an ARRANMORE Island in County Donegal. The Irish Spelling is;

Arainn Mhor. the Island is situated off the coast from Burtonport in Co. Donegal and the second largest island in all Ireland.

Looking at the Genealogy of the people of Arranmore Island one of the significant Names of the Islanders is : HOWARD . So that could be the connection. Also we can't overlook that the Johnstone Family were from Ireland and probably related to the Howards.

 

A House named: Arranmore – Conclusion.

Of the ships named Arranmore, the 4th and the 5th above can be safely discounted as there seems to be no link to the Johnston Shipping Line.

The third (3rd) listed Arranmore, which was renamed VINDICATRIX is a much remembered ship in the Merchant Marine. However she was never of the Johnston Line. She was a contender for she was a very well known Sail Training Ship at the National Training Schools, at Gravesend and later as TS VINDICATRIX at Sharpness, Gloucestershire, there is no link to the Johnston SS Co. of Liverpool.

A great Windjammer, but is reluctantly discarded.

 

Remaining are the Arranmore’s 1 and 2.

The first (1st) Arranmore, built in 1879 and sold in 1889. Edmund Johnston (the younger b.1872) was 17 years of age. He probably would have known of this Arranmore, for later as we know he moved into the business, but did this Arranmore prove to be the one for Arranmore House ?

The second (2nd) Arranmore buit in 1904 for William Johnston (the younger) was used on the New York run up to 1916. In 1915 she became the Santeramo for the Oakmore SS Co. Liverpool. It is possibly this ship that Edmund Johnston would have had more contact with.

Therefore of the 5 listed Arranmore’s its probably either of these, first two.

How can we be sure it’s an Arranmore of the Johnston line ?

The prime reason is the way by which the Johnston’s named their ships. The very first ship of the Johnston Line was the; ‘Admore’ in 1872 others that followed were;

Craigmore, Dromore, Ennismore, Edenmore, Heatmore, Incemore, Lochmore, Maplemore, Oranmore, etc. etc., all of these names have a common factor as the end in ‘MORE’ . Not all of the Johnston Line followed this practice but overwhelmingly most were named ending in ‘MORE’.

Many but not all of these names were from Ireland, in County Donegal and around Londonderry and other parts of Ireland, Ennismore (the ship built 1880) is in County Kerry, whilst another Galtymore (the ship built 1919) is the highest peak in the Galty Mountains, County Limerick. As a last example of Johnston Line ships names; Foylemore (the ship built 1897) is probably named after the River Foyle that runs through Londonderry the home town of William Johnston (the younger).

Summary: the House Names:

Howard House

the Name of the Howard Family; by daughters Elizabeth & Mary & Howard in memory of their mother Mrs Robert Howard (Robert died. 1908)

Broughton House

after their Father, Mr Robert Howard of Broughton Hall

Johnston House

The name of the Shipping Co. that William Johnston & Edmund Johnston founded

Arranmore House:

The name of a Johnston Line ship; Arranmore

Bill East wrote: Reference Arranmore name: The S.V. 'Arranmore' was built in the Clydesdale yards of Russel & Co in 1893. She was a three masted, fully square rigged 'Cape Horner', 300ft long. Sold to Germany in 1910 & renamed 'Waltraute', she surrendered with the German Navy in 1919. Was renamed 'Vindicatrix' in 1922, and arrived Sharpness in 1939. She was broken up in 1967.

When I was on her in 1957/8 she still had some brass signs etc in German. Perhaps some connection with the shipbuilders being called Russel?.

Cheers, Bill East.

Arranmore House

Broughton House

Howard House

Johnston House

LRCH